WFRP4e: Reverse SL Issues With FastSL

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WFRP4e: Reverse SL Doesn't Play Nice with FastSL

Hey folks, let's dive into a bit of a WFRP4e (Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition) issue related to the Reverse SL (Success Levels) mechanics when used in conjunction with FastSL. Specifically, the 'Reverse if Better/Worse' options in WFRP4e don't seem to be playing nicely with FastSL, and it can lead to some unexpected results. We're going to break down the problem, give you some clear examples, and talk about why this is happening. So, grab your dice and let's get into the nitty-gritty!

The Core of the Problem: Reverse SL and FastSL Interactions

The fundamental issue here revolves around how the 'Reverse if Better' and 'Reverse if Worse' options operate within the WFRP4e system when FastSL is also in play. For those unfamiliar, the Reverse SL mechanic is designed to modify the final SL based on whether a roll is 'better' or 'worse' in relation to the target number (TN). FastSL, on the other hand, is a module that speeds up the calculation of success levels. The problem arises when these two features try to work together, leading to scenarios where the final SL calculation doesn't align with what players and GMs might expect. It's like having two chefs in the kitchen, both with their own recipes, and the dish comes out a bit…off. The original issue was raised by LEGION5187, who pointed out this potential conflict, and it's a good heads-up for anyone using these modules together.

The heart of the issue is in how the game interprets 'better' and 'worse' in the context of the roll itself. Let's get into some specific examples to make this easier to grasp. This is where it gets a bit technical, but bear with me – it’s important to understand the details to know what's going on.

Detailed Breakdown with Examples

Let's get into the meat of the problem, shall we?

Example 1: Reverse if Better

Imagine a scenario. You're trying to hit a TN (Target Number) of 50. You're using the 'Reverse if Better' setting. This means if your roll is below your target number, the game should reverse it. Say you roll a 40 (which means a success). FastSL then calculates the SL based on the initial roll. But with Reverse if Better enabled, the game would (in theory) reverse this to give you a result of 60. Now, let’s go a step further. If you roll a 50 (a raw success), it might then reverse that to 05, causing a change from 5 SL to 0 SL. The idea is that a lower roll is better in this context, so reversing the number is supposed to reflect that. But the FastSL is probably not calculating SLs correctly in this scenario.

Example 2: Reverse if Worse

Now, let's flip the script and use 'Reverse if Worse'. Again, we have a TN of 50. If you roll a 60 (a fail), the system shouldn't reverse it because it’s already worse. But what happens when you roll low? Let's say you roll 05 and it reverses to 50. The game would then give you 5SL instead of 0. That's a huge difference! This discrepancy is because FastSL may not be accounting for the reversal properly.

The Impact on Gameplay

So, why does this matter? Well, for the most part, it changes the results and makes the game unpredictable. It can drastically alter the outcome of actions, turning successes into failures and vice versa. This can make combat, skill checks, and social encounters feel inconsistent and frustrating. The players will feel the consequences of this odd behavior, as it may result in a skewed understanding of the situation at hand. Furthermore, it undermines the trust in the system. If players and GMs can't rely on the game mechanics to function as intended, it detracts from the overall enjoyment of the game. A stable and predictable system is crucial for a fun and engaging tabletop experience.

Potential Causes and Workarounds

Now, let’s dig a little deeper and attempt to find the causes of this problem. This would involve identifying the potential issues that may have led to the current bug or other unforeseen circumstances. However, even if we are not able to identify the core issue, there are still some workarounds that can be useful.

Delving into the Code (or Lack Thereof)

The root cause of this issue likely lies in how FastSL handles the logic of reversing rolls. There are many reasons why this is happening. The two modules might not be entirely compatible in the way they handle the SL calculation. It's a classic case of two systems with similar purposes (speeding up SL calculations) trying to work together, and not quite getting there. Debugging this would likely involve a deep dive into the code of both FastSL and the WFRP4e system itself. Understanding how each module interprets the 'reverse' commands, and how it calculates the SL, is the first step.

Possible Workarounds

If you're encountering this issue, here are a few things you can try. These aren’t perfect solutions, but they might help mitigate the problem until a more permanent fix is available:

  • Disable FastSL: This is the most straightforward solution. If you don't use FastSL, the reversing function should work as intended. This, of course, means you'll lose the benefits of FastSL. If you play at a table where speed of calculations isn't a problem, this is a reasonable solution.
  • Manual SL Adjustment: You can manually adjust the SL after the roll. If you see that the reversed SL is incorrect, you can manually correct it based on the TN and the original roll. This is the more tedious option, but it ensures that the SL is correct. If the error is consistent, you can develop a mental shortcut to correct the SL.
  • Communicate and Coordinate: Make sure your players and GM are all aware of the issue. This way, everyone can be on the same page and can adjust their expectations accordingly. It also allows for a more collaborative approach to resolving the problem as a team.

Conclusion: Navigating the Reverse SL Dilemma

So there you have it, folks. A deep dive into the interaction between the Reverse SL feature and FastSL in WFRP4e. It appears there are some glitches that can lead to miscalculations. While we can't offer a magic fix, we've outlined the problem, given you some examples, and provided some potential workarounds. This is a great example of the kinds of problems you can run into when using a complex virtual tabletop system like Foundry VTT. Keep in mind that software is constantly evolving, and these issues will probably be resolved in future updates. Always make sure to report these issues to the appropriate developers so they can get fixed! Keep the dice rolling, and may your rolls always be in your favor!